She also said he loved his work at the home of film director Roman Polanski. I tried to find her but was unsuccessful. ANSWER: He brought a radio with him, a clock radio, and he wanted to know if I would like to buy theone that he had, buy it or one that he could get, you know. MR. STOVITZ: No objection, Your Honor. Donna Jean never gets no love. Their son was born with a heart condition and he ended up dying after his third open-heart surgery. When he was there, he said he'd been up two nights solid {no pun intended} and he had no awareness of any sexual activity. Killers, germs, conversations. And so, you know, after that I was going to go back to Ohio"Q You been arrested for Possession?A Yes.Q What else?A Well, back in Ohio, I got--I don't know if it would be a misdemeanor or what; it was, uh, Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor. He said they barked but nothing out of the ordinary. Isnt that correct? Why I shouldn't eat this or that, what about on Saturday though, basic stuff. Even if you stand firm in other beliefs, it's interesting that we might have a block of missing time in Billy's California life as told in the narrative. QUESTION: All right, from the guest house . He was the caretaker of the Polanski residence, 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon. Manson's plan seemingly backfired, and William was released. So that meant drawing as much suspicion on witnesses as possible {so as to make it seem either that they were lying, had done illicit deals with LE, had something to hide or create the possibility that not all of the actual killers were on trial}, ask irrelevant questions. These cookies do not store any personal information. May it be marked Peoples next in order? And did they really come back later that night and loudly argue? Criminal penalty. Sometime after completing high school, Billy made the mistake of a lifetime when he hitchhiked from Ohio to Los Angeles. She was executed on March 20, 1899, at Sing Sing Correctional Facility for the murder of her stepdaughter Ida Place. THE COURT: We still have 2 or 3 minutes, if you wish to start, Mr. Fitzgerald? QUESTION: And it winds around, doesnt it? On the 50th anniversary of the murders, many remember him as the only survivor, but also as, ultimately, the ninth victim of Charles Manson. A third Gypsy friend offered to give a neighborhood canine the "Bill Garretson" for a beer and a smoke!! Thank you, Proteus. He met property owner Rudy Altobelli the previous spring and Altobelli invited Garretson to stay in the guesthouse and work as the caretaker. A model year Camaro at home though and he hitches across the country with pocket change? Also from his polygraph interview;"and I was going to go back to Ohio in March, and I was picked up for Possession of Marijuana, and it was lowered to Visitation. THE COURT: Cross-examination, Mr. Fitzgerald? QUESTION: Is there a #4 on the volume control? QUESTION: Actually, it was your impression that Mr. Frykowski was, in fact, the younger brother of Roman Polanski, is that correct? QUESTION: You have swam in the pool, havent you? Where was Billy for those seven days after being released from jail? It was a Friday night. If I think I remember something, I'll fact-check it just to make sure, and then proceed from there.When it comes to this case, I find that a fairly common occurrence is taking the tiniest point or anomaly and making the most of it. QUESTION: About what time did he make a phone call? Brother of John Garretson; Ann Griest; James Garretson, I; Content . QUESTION: That would be, then, early Saturday morning, then, August 9th, 1969, is that correct? Lancaster man the lone survivor of Manson killings | 10tv.com MR. STOVITZ: At one time, Counsel, or all? But if he didn't, where was he? Tom and Dave were mowing the lawns on the Friday afternoon, with no way of knowing what would occur mere hours later. QUESTION: And you heard nothing unusual or peculiar? I could not distinguish if he was barking any louder than he generally was any other night. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. I suppose a lot of people have. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 5 for identification, a photograph of a young boy and girl? QUESTION: When the stereo was on, were you on the couch? THE COURT: What part do you claim impeaches him? QUESTION: Did they appear to bark at all shortly after Steven Parent left the guest house, if you recall? Now, if you want to talk about the sticks, I'm from a place near the river that makes Lancaster look like a full-blown metropolis. I was going to make a phone call just before dawn. QUESTION: Directing your attention to Peoples 2 for identification, do you know who is shown in this photograph? Distractify is a registered trademark. It turned out the firecrackers were gunshots. GreenWhite said: I think you have an eidetic memory, yes?No. We will update William Garretson's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. Sorry, $300-$500 range in today's money Billy remained in California for a full week after the police release him before returning home to Ohio. They drove there with the explicit intention of killing as many people as they found there, stealing their money, and staging the scene to look as though black people had committed the murders. Did Ms. Chapman and the gardener brothers also take dips? John Garretson. Soon after, Charles Manson and five followers were arrested and charged with the murders of seven people, including the actress. Were you wearing a jacket? QUESTION: Were you sleeping at the time that the police arrived or had you already awakened? Garretson was a caretaker at 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon, which, at the time, was being rented to director Roman Polanski, and his wife, actress Sharon Tate. Sometimes I feel like William Eston Garretson Jr. is Charles Watson's ninth victim. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. QUESTION: Did everything seem to be in order? QUESTION: You did not look in the window of the main house? 11th Grade. William Garretson, who moved back to his home town of Lancaster, Ohio after his arrest, was called as a witness by and on behalf of the People of the State of California v. Charles Manson, and testified in the trial on July 26, 1970. Winifred Chapman, did you know her? The following July, when Billy arrives back in LA to testify, he says on the witness stand that the dogs never barked the night of August 8th, 1969. ANSWER: Writing letters and listening to the stereo. Or even resemble it at times. QUESTION: Does he appear to resemble this man? Thank you for reading the results of my research today. Btw, if you ever visit Lancaster, be sure to pronounce the city's name, "Lank-uh-stir." With $1.85 in his pocket, he made it to . William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio, USA. "I'm pretty much brain dead and, crippled by kidney stones and, the relentless insomnia that accompanies the BRUTAL stabby Tex shots to my lower back and side socut me a wee bit of slack here buuuuutI am sure that I read a dialogue from the "Patty" that was in the small group of acquaintances of Garretson's who nicked a bottle or two of ? I would request . I was sharing my experiences in SoCal canyon settings and relating them to the verbiage in the opening of the HS book and the police reports those comments were based on. Charlie's grandpa was also a railroad man and likely got Bill the job. QUESTION: At any time on the 8th or 9th, did you look out of the guest house in the direction of the main house? People may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. daughter. She's from the same general area down by the river, (Ironton) She even has a similar back story, was abandoned in a bar as a baby by her prostitute birth mom, raised by others, etc. They have to be, in order to not give the jury time to focus on the question or the witness time to answer. ANSWER: In mid-March until the incident occurred. The people who served in Vietnam did so before their time in Manson land---Flynn, TJ the Terrible, etc. And anyway where'd you hide? Pref - awesome username and thank you for the compliment. This was the first time I was able to clearly catch Charlie lying and for some reason it felt like a slap in the face. He claimed that he didn't know whether he had or not, that the person he had hiked out to LA with, told him that some guy had shone his tings while he was crashed out. Garretson lived . He had little or no money and was freshly unemployed. What's up, Bill?". Definitely ask the others because this brain is mush. William Garretson (1716 - 1792) - Genealogy - geni family tree QUESTION: What was the nature of Mr. Parents visit to you? How many Billy's are running around LA right now believing they're getting their big break except in reality they're being used and abused? Husband of Helen Garretson. Arguably, the aftershocks of August 8, 1969, killed him long before he died. QUESTION: And you hitchhiked back, right? QUESTION: Did you walk by the main house when you walked back to the guest house? It's almost like trying to do the defence's work for them, 50 years down the line, because it's felt they made such a poor job of it. While Charles Manson was commissioning the LaBianca murders to cover his tracks, it also led police to rule William out as a suspect, as the LaBianca murders occurred while he was in custody. Or maybe create it if you do not. . We are not interested in what the witness usually did. William Garretson was the caretaker for the 10050 Cielo Drive House that Sharon and Roman were renting. Billy is dead but also alive on Max Frost's answering machine. Derr, however, saw Manson in a different light, particularly noting his childhood and how that affected his adult life. William Garretson Archives - Deranged LA Crimes ANSWER: 10:30, 11:00 oclock. Local resident adds 'strange' details about gory Manson killing spree, From the archives: Mother thinks son couldn't be killer, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. !Completely grossed out we finally bartered Justin's sad sack ass for 6 smokes! He is from USA. Check out cielodrive.com. "Because when Justin finally woke up (fortunately around 20mins before we were supposed to go on) he had a VERY weak recollection of how he came to lose his stuff (fortunately, no beating or organ harvesting occurred) AND, HE HAD ZERO RECOLLECTION OF HIS "Bill Garretson" tag team Gypsy session! The list is endless. We have had other occasional attempts at creative writing, such as Fayez with his affected and incomprehensible attempts at literary output. Police tried to hold onto him for as long as possible as they had absolutely no other leads and he was the only person found alive on the premises. QUESTION: Did you investigate the cause or ? And why would he marry three women throughout the course of his life and have children with two if he was gay? QUESTION: Did you ever see what appeared to be parties in the evening in the location of the pool? You were arrested, correct? MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here another photograph appearing to depict the same interior portion of the living room. and, hung out with Billy at the Cielo pool and, guesthouse. My internal dialogue is all over-caution and hey don't do that, dude. It was almost de rigueur if ya wanted to be cool to have at least one cross-country hitch-hiking exploit to boast about. It was quite strange but not in the way you are describing. 3. William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. ANSWER: I cannot recall the officers name or anything, that I spoke with. QUESTION: Can you see the diagram, Peoples 8, from where you are seated, sir? QUESTION: Is there some reason for that, so far as you know? Billy grew up without a father in this tidy little home. Like Derr, classmates of Garretson's described him as kind and polite. How much time passes before a yokel like Billy can cozy up to a mobbed-up guy like Rudi and have the skill set to make it stick? QUESTION: And then you were released from custody? QUESTION: And this would activate the gate and open it, is that correct? The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. MR. BUGLIOSI: No further questions, Your Honor. Billy could've been a waiter or a bartender or a whatever if he had a problem with being a male prostitute. I mean, conversation with other people. In a 1970 interview with the Columbus Citizen-Journal, William Garretson said he left Lancaster in the fall of 1968 and hitch-hiked to California. The Manson relative connections are very interesting and, hopefully you can reveal a bit more about these relationships to us. THE COURT: The motion is granted. "When I saw on TV they'd arrested Bill, I was flabbergasted because I couldn't believe it. "And he knew a lot of movie star agents, but he wanted to say bye to California after that was all over with and he never went back except for his trial.". Alex Murdaugh has been convicted Thursday of killing his wife and son. Good point. ANSWER: I couldnt really say, but it was just before daybreak. Sometimes he and Darrell double-dated and Garretson even let those two women (one Debbie T. and a Patty Montgomery) crash at the guesthouse"This hasn't got any dialogue with this Patty woman though Torque - Awesome idea reaching out to the pool friend. They are brothers. Shoutout to Linda up in Heaven for her kindness. ANSWER: Yes. Billy and so many other youths were drawn west like moths to the flame and it never stops. . Martha M. Place (September 18, 1849 - March 20, 1899) was an American murderer and the first woman to die in the electric chair. I've long thought my next door neighbor is related to Charlie somehow. The trauma of what William witnessed led him to turn down multiple interview offers with the press that would have given him hundreds of thousands of dollars. !No word of a lie! The canyon (where most of the people reporting sounds were located) spread out before and beneath the crime scene, as I'm sure you've seen in pics. QUESTION: So this shows a portion of the guest house, is that correct? I still have yet to hear anything that even nudges me towards a belief that LE was found wanting, so when objections are levelled in that direction, even hints of it, I'll sometimes just point out what I can see as LE's logic in the moves they made.But that's just one side of the equation.starviego said:And how did he acquire a new car at all?Now that's a good question.But in the grand scheme of things, hardly of earth shaking importance.Is it cynical to ponder why on earth it's of any relevance what William Garretson was doing for some months before he found himself the only breathing individual in the midst of a savage slaughter ?And does it matter where he went when he was released from jail ? He was TOTALLY oblivious to any of it.We actually had to "barter" (in the strangest manner ever) for his return. If you read through Billy's. One I would have liked to ask Bill would be one that G&W has echoed here. Thanks for the time you spend crafting your pieces, GreenWhite, and may the ink in your pen never run dry. QUESTION: Will you please step down from the witness stand, sir, just temporarily, and indicate where in the living room the stereo was. Despite the lack of direct evidence, the prosecution spent weeks outlining how Murdaugh had the motive, means and opportunity . At 67 years old, William Garretson height not available right now. The attempt fails. MR. BUGLIOSI: Your Honor, may I put an X there and mark it stereo?. Billy Garreston, fresh from his senior year in Ohio, arrives in the City of Angels on the back of a turnip truck and drifts through a year or two of living on his journey to Rudi Altobelli. I'm pretty sure I'll never forget your story. Derr described her ex-husband, who died in 2016, as a very good man, loving man, and cited those qualities as the reason she married him. QUESTION: Did you consider these dogs, bearing in mind your experience with them, as watchdogs of any sort? A newspaper article about her death described her as popular in town. Sound travels in strange and unexpected ways in those settings and what people in the area (Wm G. included) reported is entirely in line with reality. You can visit Sherman's. Immediately, the cops assumed they had caught the murderer and cuffed William, then paraded him past . ANSWER: No, I would say about 15 to 20 seconds, something like that. The Slow Death of William Eston Garretson Jr. - Manson Blog He worked in an appliance place or something that dealt with radios and stereos. Was never hard to get a ride either. Pete - Funny and succinct. ANSWER: No. Second, "Off to another aunt and uncle." No electric clocks in the guest house. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. That wife is possibly also one of my distant cousins. Prosecution witness William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. You consent to our use of cookies if you continue to use this site. QUESTION: What time was it that you actually went to bed, went to sleep that is? The Garretson Home Historical Marker - hmdb.org ANSWER: No. QUESTION: Do you recall if there were any lights inside the Polanskis residence? Okay, you got me. Why Murdaugh killed his wife and son, according to the prosecution Or spit him back to Ohio after shattering his mind. We have had (and still have) quite a few posters who write clearly and effectively (it would be invidious to single out anyone in particular). You are ordered to return Monday, Mr. Garretson. QUESTION: And you were under the employ of one Rudi Altobelli, correct? QUESTION: And you have been there ever since? Garretson was the caretaker of Rudi Altobelli's Cielo Drive estate in Benedict Canyon, which at the time was rented out to Roman Polanski and his wife Sharon Tate. QUESTION: Were you employed on the premises? I don't think he'd hurt a fly.". ANSWER: And then I would have to it is more to the right. QUESTION: You can hear the dogs when they bark outside, though, cant you? Btw, Washington Courthouse is pronounced, you guessed it, Warshington Courthouse. How were people drinking jars of shine and smacking kids up around her? William Garretson Testimony - CharlesManson.com ANSWER: I decided to go back to the guest cottage where I lived. Namely: if it took only a few days of hitchhiking to reach LA, and if he took the job at Cielo--as he said--in March 1969, where did Bill live for nearly five months prior to Cielo? !And, that ALMOST answers your query - "I doubt anyone in history ever slept thru a hummer before but what do I know? QUESTION: Did you hear any loud screams during the night? I lived in LA in 1969, in Leucadia and then in Orange County. QUESTION: And from 12:15 until 4:00, 4:30 or 5:00, you did what? Steven Parent (Victim) - CharlesManson.com QUESTION: Again, did you pay any particular attention to that? There are quite a few times during the trial when an objection is made, but the witness has answered the question before the objection came in and the answer is allowed to stand and becomes part of the record ~ the very thing the objecting lawyer doesn't want.With Irving Kanarek objecting 9 times during the opening statement, and then asking for the whole statement to be stricken and then saying that a mistrial should be declared, it was clear right from the start that one of the defence's major tactics was going to be deflection. the picnic table. All Rights Reserved. I have always believed that Garrettson travelled from Ohio to Los Angeles on a train. Although she didn't know him well in school, she described him as a sweet boy, who was kind and quiet. QUESTION: Did you normally have the windows open in the guest house? 'Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark' Spoilers That Will Keep You up at Night, The Dysfunctional Roy Family in Succession Might've Been Inspired by These Real Families, Netflix's 'Resident Evil' Show Has Survival Horror Fans Seriously Excited. MR. BUGLIOSI: I would request this, Your Honor, instead of his posture being that of impeachment. ANSWER: It is a walk just before you get to the guest house. QUESTION: When you returned at approximately 10:00 pm, did you see anyone about the premises? I hope you liked my Irish Rover joke in my previous post. Like the Partisan, j'ai chang cent fois de nom And I very rarely post here. I haven't got a clue about WHERE this dialogue was (apologies, stabby Tex pain and, heaps of codeine) but, perhaps Grim, Starviego, Whut, Patty, or, SOMEONE else can remember and, give us a link.Love your posts GW. Cohen's is of course the best and then probably followed by Kaylee Rodgers from your own green island. QUESTION: Did they bark when Mr. Parent arrived that night? I'd say, "Gimme the straight dope, Billy. (A historical marker located in Waterloo in Monroe County, Illinois.) There appears to be an object there on the seat. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 18 for identification, Mr. Garretson. And Garretson does most of the talking. We're getting ahead of ourselves. Ann Underwood. One of Kathleen's two sisters died at 20 years old from the flu. Everyone had teeth when they were young. Gimme an effin break. May it be marked Peoples 21 for identification? Do you know what is depicted in that photo? "My husband, I really don't think anybody in the area here, never gave him a chance of day," Linda Derr, Garretson's ex-wife said. Who's behind the wheel? I never will. Scrolling through the labels along the right side of the blog reveals that this is the thirteenth time blog writers have mentioned Billy (and remembered to make a label). Star, as I recall, Bill discussed the marijuana charge with LAPD during his interview, and just before the polygraph examination. I can relate to your post, hearing "warsh" for "wash" lol. When I have an interest in something, I tend to remember certain details. Didn't know Billy had it in him. QUESTION: Approximately how far is the couch from the door? Someone from a Youtube channel called and asked Billy who he thought would win the Super Bowl one year and then uploaded his answer to the channel for some reason. Grim - I think you have an eidetic memory, yes? QUESTION: There appears to be a stereo in the far left corner of this photograph. QUESTION: You did not hear any shots or anything like that? Let's back up a bit. Just the two of them perfectly together. Quick story. William Garretson was born on 24 August, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio, USA, is an Actor. QUESTION: Is the guest house air conditioned? What did he do, and how did he support himself? Then three years later . MR. BUGLIOSI: I would request as a foundational question that you ask him again for clarification if the dog barked that night. QUESTION: Well, lets take it step by step. In another amazing blunder by police, the two bloody murders were originally deemed to be unrelated and were investigated by separate homicide teams. I mean, not the line, the phone was dead. The two were connected by a rope hung over a rafter and looped around their necks. He later married Linda Derr, and the pair had a son together. ANSWER: I wrote a few letters and listened to the stereo. QUESTION: Lets stretch it and say Ireland is Europe. Rudy Altobelli, hired a live-in caretaker named William Garretson to look after the property. If you do not agree, please immediately exit the service. !when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob taleActually, it's not researchers that do the harmonizing, it's Garretson himself. QUESTION: And he picked you up and drove you home; is that correct? Tell me no one, not even that crew, is that stupid, Billy. Genealogy for William Garretson (1716 - 1792) family tree on Geni, with over 240 million profiles of ancestors and living relatives.